## To Build A Universe

So I kept thinking about what the distribution of elements might be in an infinitely old universe. It’s a tough problem to consider, if you want to do it exactly right, since you have to consider how stars turn lighter atoms in a blistering array of possibilities. Besides the nearly hundred different elements — which represents the count of how many protons are in the nucleus — each element has multiple isotopes — representing how many neutrons are in the nucleus — and I don’t know how many there are to consider but it’s certainly at least several hundred to deal with. There’s probably a major work in the astrophysics literature describing all the ways atoms and their isotopes can get changed over the course of a star’s lifetime, either actually existing or waiting for an indefatigable writer to make it her life’s work.

But I can make a toy model, because I want to do mathematics, and I can see what I might learn from that. This is basically a test vehicle: I want to see whether building a more accurate model is likely to be worthwhile.

For my toy model of the universe I will pretend there are only three kinds of atoms in the universe: hydrogen, iron, and uranium. These represent the lighter elements — which can fuse together to release energy — and Iron-56 — which can’t release energy by fusing into heavier or by fissioning into lighter elements — and the heavier elements — which can fission apart to release energy and lighter elements. I can describe the entire state of the universe with three numbers, saying what fraction of the universe is hydrogen, what fraction is iron, and what fraction is uranium. So these are pretty powerful toys.

Over time the stars in this universe will change some of their hydrogen into iron, and some of their iron into uranium. The uranium will change some of itself into hydrogen and into iron. How much? I’m going to make up some nice simple numbers and say that over the course of a billion years, one-quarter of all the hydrogen in the universe will be changed into iron; three-quarters of the hydrogen will remain hydrogen. Over that same time, let’s say two-fifths of all the iron in the universe will be changed to uranium, while the remaining three-fifths will remain iron. And the uranium? Well, that decays; let’s say that two-fifths of the uranium will become hydrogen, two-fifths will become iron, and the remaining one-fifth will stay uranium. If I had more elements in the universe I could make a more detailed, subtle model, and if I didn’t feel quite so lazy I might look up more researched figures for this, but, again: toy model.

I’m by the way assuming this change of elements is constant for all time and that it doesn’t depend on the current state of the universe. There are sound logical reasons behind this: to have the rate of nucleosynthesis vary in time would require me to do more work. As above: toy model.

So what happens? This depends on what we start with, sure. Let’s imagine the universe starts out made of nothing but hydrogen, so that the composition of the universe is 100% hydrogen, 0% iron, 0% uranium. After the first billion years, some of the hydrogen will be changed to iron, but there wasn’t any iron so there’s no uranium now. The universe’s composition would be 75% hydrogen, 25% iron, 0% uranium. After the next billion years three-quarters of the hydrogen becomes iron and two-fifths of the iron becomes uranium, so we’ll be at 56.25% hydrogen, 33.75% iron, 10% uranium. Another billion years passes, and once again three-quarters of the hydrogen becomes iron, two-fifths of the iron becomes uranium, and two-fifths of the uranium becomes hydrogen and another two-fifths becomes iron. This is a lot of arithmetic but the results are easy enough to find: 46.188% hydrogen, 38.313% iron, 15.5% uranium. After some more time we have 40.841% hydrogen, 40.734% iron, 18.425% uranium. It’s maybe a fair question whether the universe is going to run itself all the way down to have nothing but iron, but, the next couple billions of years show things settling down. Let me put all this in a neat little table.

Composition of the Toy Universe | |||
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Age (billion years) |
Hydrogen | Iron | Uranium |

0 | 100% | 0% | 0% |

1 | 75% | 25% | 0% |

2 | 56.25% | 33.75% | 10% |

3 | 46.188% | 38.313% | 15.5% |

4 | 40.841% | 40.734% | 18.425% |

5 | 38% | 42.021% | 19.979% |

6 | 36.492% | 42.704% | 20.804% |

7 | 35.691% | 43.067% | 21.242% |

8 | 35.265% | 43.260% | 21.475% |

9 | 35.039% | 43.362% | 21.599% |

10 | 34.919% | 43.417% | 21.665% |

11 | 34.855% | 43.446% | 21.700% |

12 | 34.821% | 43.461% | 21.718% |

13 | 34.803% | 43.469% | 21.728% |

14 | 34.793% | 43.473% | 21.733% |

15 | 34.788% | 43.476% | 21.736% |

16 | 34.786% | 43.477% | 21.737% |

17 | 34.784% | 43.478% | 21.738% |

18 | 34.783% | 43.478% | 21.739% |

19 | 34.783% | 43.478% | 21.739% |

20 | 34.783% | 43.478% | 21.739% |

We could carry on but there’s really no point: the numbers aren’t going to change again. Well, probably they’re changing a little bit, four or more places past the decimal point, but this universe has settled down to a point where just as much hydrogen is being lost to fusion as is being created by fission, and just as much uranium is created by fusion as is lost by fission, and just as much iron is being made as is being turned into uranium. There’s a balance in the universe.

At least, that’s the balance if we start out with a universe made of nothing but hydrogen. What if it started out with a different breakdown, for example, a universe that started as one-third hydrogen, one-third iron, and one-third uranium? In that case, as the universe ages, the distribution of elements goes like this:

Composition of the Toy Universe | |||
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Age (billion years) |
Hydrogen | Iron | Uranium |

0 | 33.333% | 33.333% | 33.333% |

1 | 38.333% | 41.667% | 20% |

2 | 36.75% | 42.583% | 20.667% |

3 | 35.829% | 43.004% | 21.167% |

4 | 35.339% | 43.226% | 21.435% |

5 | 35.078% | 43.345% | 21.578% |

… | … | … | … |

10 | 34.795% | 43.473% | 21.732% |

… | … | … | … |

15 | 34.783% | 43.478% | 21.739% |

We’ve gotten to the same distribution, only a tiny bit faster. (It doesn’t quite get there after fourteen billion years.) I hope it won’t shock you if I say that we’d see the same thing if we started with a universe made of nothing but iron, or of nothing but uranium, or of other distributions. Some take longer to settle down than others, but, they all seem to converge on the same long-term fate for the universe.

Obviously there’s something special about this toy universe, with three kinds of atoms changing into one another at these rates, which causes it to end up at the same distribution of atoms.

## Tim Erickson 2:01 am

onSaturday, 12 July, 2014 Permalink |Oooh, love this. Assuming you don’t want an answer given, let’s Polyafy it and create a simpler problem.

Suppose we have a two-state system and we are simulating weather. If it’s sunny, we roll a die. 1-5 it’s still sunny the next day. 6 and it rains. If it’s raining, 1-3 gives us rain the next day and 4-6 gives us sun. Over the long run, what fraction of the days are sunny?

Now, this is the same situation as if we had, say, 600 locations, all independent, all using this same (Markov) scheme. Then the question is, what is the proportion of sunny and rainy days…

…such that the number of sunny places converting to rainy is the same as the number of rainy places converting to sunny?

If you smell a system of differential equations, good nose, but this approach avoids using Calculus.

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## Joseph Nebus 7:56 pm

onSunday, 13 July, 2014 Permalink |Quite a nice recasting, thank you, particularly into the two kinds of days. I wonder if I might have permission to promote this to an article in itself in case readers didn’t spot it and wanted the exercise?

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## The Rev Dr Sherwood Forrester 12:23 am

onSunday, 13 July, 2014 Permalink |I seem to recall Freeman Dyson calculated that every atom in the universe that hadn’t fallen into a black hole would have transmuted into iron-56 through fission or fusion — after something on the order of 10^1500 years. I’ll dig up my copy of ‘The Last Three Minutes’ when I get home and see if I can find the reference.

If Dyson is right, we actually can rule out a universe that’s infinite in time in both directions — although of course we cannot rule out a universe that’s infinite in time in only one direction.

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## Joseph Nebus 7:46 pm

onSunday, 13 July, 2014 Permalink |I shouldn’t be surprised if there is some maximum-conceivable-time like that, although that’s obviously going to depend on a lot of assumptions like whether protons decay. Obviously for my little model I’m ignoring all that and anything else that might fiddle with the total amount of matter in the universe.

I have to admit I’m torn about the idea of an infinitely long-lasting universe. On the one hand, a universe that can exist for only a short while seems to turn the horror of mortality up to an incredible degree. On the other hand, an infinitely long-lasting universe has existential horrors that might be even greater than that. It brings to mind that old Woody Allen My Speech To The Graduates gag about the crossroads humanity is at.

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## The Rev Dr Sherwood Forrester 8:17 am

onMonday, 14 July, 2014 Permalink |Right, and Dyson’s calculations assumed that protons are fundamental (still can’t find the fershlugginer book, I’m looking!)

I find the idea of a universe infinitely extended in time to be a little disturbing, especially in light of accelerating expansion. If the acceleration never reaches the point of a Big Rip, you end up with an ever-expanding exceedingly thin gas of isolated atoms and molecules growing ever more distant from each other.

Assuming the absence of any sort of intelligent life therein at that stage of cosmological evolution, I find the question of whether the universe can be said to exist at all to be… well, beside the point. I’m not a Copenhagenist who insists that observation is required in order to say something exists, I do believe in an objective reality (even if it’s a little fuzzy down at the subatomic level), but I find a universe that has nothing going on and no potential for that to change might as well be considered an ‘ended’ universe, just as thoroughly as if it’d gone through a Big Crunch or a Big Rip.

In a universe that has a definite end, that at least gives the denizens therein something to work towards: to wit, escaping the end of everything.

And now I really need to find that blasted book, which talked quite a bit about surviving and/or escaping the heat death or recollapse of the universe. It had nothing to say about a Big Rip scenario, since it was written before the discovery of accelerating expansion.

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## Joseph Nebus 5:59 pm

onTuesday, 15 July, 2014 Permalink |Don’t worry about finding the book. I’m interested in the calculations, naturally, but I’ll be around a while yet barring unpleasant surprises.

I would have to agree that a universe in which nothing changed would have to be considered “ended”, although then you start getting into conceptual problems such as how it could be meaningfully be infinite-in-time-extent if there’s no events happening.

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## The Rev Dr Sherwood Forrester 8:09 am

onFriday, 18 July, 2014 Permalink |Pretty much, yeah. In order to track time, you need to have things changing. If things aren’t changing, it’s hard to say that time is actually passing.

It’s hard to imagine a universe that’s degenerated to the point where no more activity is happening beyond a quantum minimum — at that point, you couldn’t be there to actually measure it, and that inevitably leads to somewhere dangerously close to Copenhagenism again. Is a universe with no observers in it a universe at all?

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## nebusresearch | What’s Going On In The Old Universe 10:47 pm

onTuesday, 15 July, 2014 Permalink |[…] Last time in this infinitely-old universe puzzle, we found that by making a universe of only three k… which shifted to one another with fixed chances over the course of time, we’d end up with the same distribution of atoms regardless of what the distribution of hydrogen, iron, and uranium was to start with. That seems like it might require explanation. […]

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## nebusresearch | Lewis Carroll and my Playing With Universes 8:46 pm

onSunday, 27 July, 2014 Permalink |[…] me start by looking at the descriptions of my toy universe: it’s made up of a certain amount of hydrogen, a certain amount of iron, and a certain amount o… Since I’m not trying to describe, like, where these elements are or how they assemble into […]

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## nebusresearch | July 2014 in Mathematics Blogging 3:18 pm

onFriday, 1 August, 2014 Permalink |[…] To Build A Universe, and my simple toy version of an arbitrarily old universe. This builds on In A Really Old Universe and on What’s Going On In The Old Universe, and is followed by Lewis Carroll And My Playing With Universes, also some popular posts. […]

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## nebusresearch | Combining Matrices And Model Universes 11:20 pm

onWednesday, 13 August, 2014 Permalink |[…] You’ve seen those numbers before, of course: the matrix A contains the probabilities I put in … to describe the chances that over the course of a billion years a hydrogen atom would stay hydrogen, or become iron, or become uranium, and so on. The matrix B contains the original distribution of atoms in the toy universe, 100 percent hydrogen and nothing anything else. And the product of A and B was exactly the distribution after that first billion years: 75 percent hydrogen, 25 percent iron, nothing uranium. […]

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## nebusresearch | Reading the Comics, August 16, 2014: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal Edition 4:04 pm

onSunday, 17 August, 2014 Permalink |[…] But models are often built on assumptions that might, taken literally, be nonsensical, like imagining the universe to have exactly three elements in it, supposing that people never act against their maximal long-term economic gain, or — to […]

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